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Programming is complex: HTML5 data-*

Started by Andrey Shchekin · 9 months ago

According to HTML5 spec, every attribute that starts with data- should be ignored by browser and considered a data needed for some scripts. For example:
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  • Steve

    9 months ago

    Hmm, I believe you're mixing up several completely unrelated topics. X/HTML 5 is not for the programmer and therefore should be as simple as possible, even if it means mimicking XML functionality. The paragraphs about standards (language stuff) and ASP.NET MVC are completely unrelated to the X/HTML 5 debate. While data-* is about programming, you may want to ask yourself how many web designers are not programmers, nevertheless, writing awesome JavaScript code? data-* is made for them not primarily for programmers in its conventional perception.

    Additionally, I do not fully understand the last paragraph. What are you trying to say? What does ease of use have to do with ASP.NET MVC? It's a design pattern, not more. More importantly, it is something that exists in other languages for ages which MS thought of being completely unnecessary. MVC is neither an "easy solution" nor a "shortcut" of some kind.
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  • Andrey Shchekin

    9 months ago

    People who write awesome JavaScript code _are_ programmers. Their job may be named 'designer', but it is a misnomer.
    If a person writes good JavaScript, then he is a JavaScript programmer, and people writing really good JavaScript have no problems understanding complex things -- namespaces are a piece of cake compared to prototypes.
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  • Andrey Shchekin

    9 months ago

    ASP.NET was a solution that was expected to be 'simple for developers'. Just drag&drop some things and get the work done.
    That worked, to some extent. In the same way the data-* would work, as long as the task is not complex enough.

    ASP.NET MVC is the flexible solution. For some people, it might not be as easy to use or understand as original ASP.NET.
    However flexibility has proven to be very important, important enough for Microsoft to spend time and resources to develop it.
    Would the original ASP.NET be created, if Microsoft started with ASP.NET MVC? I am not sure.
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  • Ian Hickson

    9 months ago

    Eugenics aims to solve merely one: the devolution of our civilisation. That this is happening, and that it is a logical outcome of the egalitarian "political correctness" that our society is obsessed with, is a verifiable fact.
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